Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:55:12 -0500
From: "Ken Wiggins" <wiggins_k@hotmail.com>
Subject: Someone mentioned "cops
showing up" and "warrants".
Someone mentioned "cops showing
up" and "warrants".
When someone comes to your door, whether
it is the police, CPS or the Dog Catcher,
they are REQUIRED BY LAW to have a
valid warrant to gain entry to your
home - your castle inviolate.
DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR.
Mind you they are all good liars.
They will say they don't need a warrant.
They lie. They will say they can get
a warrant - if they could, they already
would have. They will say they have
one and wave papers around in the
air. Demand to see it.
DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR. Make them hold
their warrant up for you to see at
a window.
Next, a piece of paper signed by a
judge does not make something a legal
warrant. It is "The Law"
that makes it legal.
A warrant must have a "real complainant"
- A real person who swears, under
oath, that they saw a crime committed.
A "government agent" is
not a "real person", unless
they personally saw a crime committed.
Their "suspicions" or some
"anonymous caller" are NOT
legal cause for a warrant - even if
some judge did sign it, it still ain't
legal.
DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR. If they kick
your door in, using an illegal warrant,
you can kick their ass big time in
a court. Go after some real damages
and penalties against them.
Wiley - Webmaster for:
http://www.amatterofjustice.org
http://www.parentsforchildren.net
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:26:11 -0800
(PST)
From: Jeff <trvlshpp@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Has anybody ever wondered.....
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure
in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable
searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer
for a capital, or otherwise infamous
crime, unless on a presentment or
indictment of a Grand Jury, except
in cases arising in the land or naval
forces, or in the Militia, when in
actual service in time of War or public
danger; nor shall any person be subject
for the same offence to be twice put
in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall
be compelled in any criminal case
to be a witness against himself, nor
be deprived of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor shall
private property be taken for public
use, without just compensation.
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--- RUSS <becca2002@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> they had no court papers or search
warrent..but had
> 2 state police with them. and
just helped them
> selves in. i did ask them for
one. and they said
> they did not need one..and just
did what they
> wanted. and took pictures..Russ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TIDDYBEAR@aol.com
> To: CourtWatchers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 26,
2005 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [CourtWatchers]
Has anybody ever
> wondered.....
>
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2005
10:12:07 PM Eastern
> Standard Time, gemni@sover.net
writes:
>
>
> They need ether a court order
of protection or a
> search warrant. Otherwise you
should not have let
> them in you home.
>
>
> Tuff to do when you aren't THERE...........
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:44:50 -0800
(PST)
From: Paige Roberts <paige3274@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Has anybody ever wondered.....
Mine's not in a court order, but in
the case plan. I signed the first
one not knowing any better. I haven't
signed anything else.
paige
Cecile <gemni@sover.net> wrote:
They need either a court order of
protection or a search warrant. Otherwise
you should not have let them in you
home. No matter what they tell you.
Then you don't sign a thing!!
-------Original Message-------
From: TIDDYBEAR@aol.com
Date: 11/26/05 19:51:01
To: CourtWatchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CourtWatchers] Has anybody
ever wondered.....
>>>These people had no search
warrant with them,
they did however have an officer with
them, can they still just up and
take my son without one because of
an officer being with them? <<<
When they show up with a police officer
in tow, does
the cop THINK that these morons have
a warrant??
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:49:31 -0800
(PST)
From: Paige Roberts <paige3274@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Has anybody ever wondered.....
[if they don't....]
If they don't have a court order for
your children - and no warrant when
they come if you see them coming down
your driveway act like your not home
if at all possible. Don't even go
to the door, don't answer the phone
either. They have tried when I acted
like i wasn't home they called in
on a cell phone. I guess they figured
I'd answer.
Paige
Melissa Attaway <melissa@dattaway.org>
wrote: The police had no search warrant
when they came to my home to arrest
my
then husband last year and they kept
threatening me with my girls....if
i don't let them do their job the
longer i will be away from my girls.the
sooner i let them do their job the
sooner i go get my girls.And 1 year
and 8 months later i still don't have
them.
The police told me this i was worried
more about going to get my girls than
anything and let them in with people
present.
I was under a state of major duress.
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