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Entering Your Home Without a Warrant is Illegal
But Child Services and Others Do It All the Time by Intimidating and Threatening people

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:55:12 -0500
From: "Ken Wiggins" <wiggins_k@hotmail.com>
Subject: Someone mentioned "cops showing up" and "warrants".

Someone mentioned "cops showing up" and "warrants".

When someone comes to your door, whether it is the police, CPS or the Dog Catcher, they are REQUIRED BY LAW to have a valid warrant to gain entry to your home - your castle inviolate.

Mind you they are all good liars. They will say they don't need a warrant. They lie. They will say they can get a warrant - if they could, they already would have. They will say they have one and wave papers around in the air. Demand to see it.

DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR. Make them hold their warrant up for you to see at a window.

Next, a piece of paper signed by a judge does not make something a legal warrant. It is "The Law" that makes it legal.

A warrant must have a "real complainant" - A real person who swears, under oath, that they saw a crime committed. A "government agent" is not a "real person", unless they personally saw a crime committed. Their "suspicions" or some "anonymous caller" are NOT legal cause for a warrant - even if some judge did sign it, it still ain't legal.

DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR. If they kick your door in, using an illegal warrant, you can kick their ass big time in a court. Go after some real damages and penalties against them.

Wiley - Webmaster for:

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:26:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff <trvlshpp@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Has anybody ever wondered.....

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
--- RUSS <becca2002@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> they had no court papers or search warrent..but had
> 2 state police with them. and just helped them
> selves in. i did ask them for one. and they said
> they did not need one..and just did what they
> wanted. and took pictures..Russ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TIDDYBEAR@aol.com
> To: CourtWatchers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [CourtWatchers] Has anybody ever
> wondered.....
> In a message dated 11/26/2005 10:12:07 PM Eastern
> Standard Time, gemni@sover.net writes:
> They need ether a court order of protection or a
> search warrant. Otherwise you should not have let
> them in you home.
> Tuff to do when you aren't THERE...........


Message: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:44:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Paige Roberts <paige3274@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Has anybody ever wondered.....

Mine's not in a court order, but in the case plan. I signed the first one not knowing any better. I haven't signed anything else.

Cecile <gemni@sover.net> wrote: They need either a court order of protection or a search warrant. Otherwise you should not have let them in you home. No matter what they tell you. Then you don't sign a thing!!

-------Original Message-------

From: TIDDYBEAR@aol.com
Date: 11/26/05 19:51:01
To: CourtWatchers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CourtWatchers] Has anybody ever wondered.....

>>>These people had no search warrant with them,
they did however have an officer with them, can they still just up and
take my son without one because of an officer being with them? <<<

When they show up with a police officer in tow, does
the cop THINK that these morons have a warrant??


Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:49:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Paige Roberts <paige3274@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Has anybody ever wondered..... [if they don't....]

If they don't have a court order for your children - and no warrant when they come if you see them coming down your driveway act like your not home if at all possible. Don't even go to the door, don't answer the phone either. They have tried when I acted like i wasn't home they called in on a cell phone. I guess they figured I'd answer.

Melissa Attaway <melissa@dattaway.org> wrote: The police had no search warrant when they came to my home to arrest my
then husband last year and they kept threatening me with my girls....if i don't let them do their job the longer i will be away from my girls.the sooner i let them do their job the sooner i go get my girls.And 1 year and 8 months later i still don't have them.

The police told me this i was worried more about going to get my girls than anything and let them in with people present.

I was under a state of major duress.