Saturday, June
15, 2005
OUR OPINION
Guidelines should look beyond myths
Because Legislature put adults' interests
first, commission should make children
a priority
Published on: 06/26/05
Two perceptions led to the Legislature's
vote this year to change the way child
support is calculated in Georgia —
the current formula is unfair, and
non-custodial parents pay too much.
No one in the Legislature was bothered
by the absence of data supporting
either contention. The push to rewrite
Georgia's child support guidelines
succeeded because the political opportunity
existed even if the economic evidence
did not.
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/0605/26edchild.html
This is an opinion
piece, by the Atlantic Journal Constitution.
I thought I would add my commentary.
OUR OPINION
Guidelines should look beyond myths
Because Legislature put adults' interests
first, commission should make children
a priority (Rinaldo's Notes: Ah yes,
the old argument prevails that when
mom gets more money, it is all about
the children. I may be wrong, but
I do not believe there is a state
in the union that requires child support
actually to be spent on the children.
Most payments of child support are
used to pay regular household expenses
that accrue regardless of whether
one has a child.)
Published on: 06/26/05
Two perceptions led to the Legislature's
vote this year to change the way child
support is calculated in Georgia —
the current formula is unfair, and
non-custodial parents pay too much.
No one in the Legislature was bothered
by the absence of data supporting
either contention. (Rinaldo's Notes:
Ahhhh, data. You see, the cost of
children is so perplexing, we need
10 more "studies"
to see what children really cost.
Apparently, what food cost, what clothes
cost, the cost of an additional room
if you rent an apartment [most houses
have more than 1 room so there is
no real additional cost for home owners
is not within the ken of average folks.
Hey, let's have a Los Alamo type of
project to figure out the real cost
of children. Or maybe we can talk
to extremist feminist groups. Do you
know children really cost $600 per
week, per child, above and beyond
normal household expenses that would
have accrued anyhow? Take it from
these "studies.")
The push to rewrite Georgia's child
support guidelines succeeded because
the political opportunity existed
even if the economic evidence did
not. (Rinaldo's Notes: The "economic
evidence." Hmmmm.
Is grass really "green."?
Let's have a study. Don't like policy.
Rather than say something substantive,
just say it was not studied enough,
even things well within the ken of
the average person.)
Overturning Georgia's child support
guidelines was always a goal of state
Rep. Earl Ehrhart (R-Powder Springs),
a divorced father who sprang from
the legislative backbench under Democratic
reign to a quarterback role with the
GOP. Using his new clout in the General
Assembly, Ehrhart immediately gave
fathers' groups the legislative remedy
they believe will lower their support
orders.
(Rinaldo's Notes: Maybe they can custody
laws changed. Funny, if father's won
custody all the time as they did in
the 19th Century and THEY received
child support, why do I suspect this
same journal would be writing about
the cruelty of the system, forcing
mothers to pay for children taken
from them against their will with
sums of money that do no correspond
to the actual incremental cost of
having
children.)
Now, the 15-member Georgia Child Support
Guidelines Commission appointed to
create a realistic economic portrait
of child-rearing costs must do the
important work legislators refused
to do — separate the reality from
the myths. (Rinaldo's Notes: Hey,
this is brilliant logic. Create a
committee to study something, and
then have a paper criticize that was
no study done before the creation
of a committee to study it. Hey, maybe
if did that study, we can say that
there was a problem because there
was not study of the pre-study. And
if they did that, they would complain
that there was no pre-study, of the
pre- study, of the study to be done
by the child support commission. You
really are on a roll Atlantic Journal
Constitution.)
It won't be easy. Lobbyists for lower
awards convinced lawmakers that Georgia's
current method of calculating support
based on a percentage of the father's
income was inherently unjust and led
to higher-than-necessary levels of
support. What was more equitable,
they said, was an income shares model,
which looks at the earnings of both
the father and the mother.
But experts say it's not the formula
that matters; it's the numbers that
are plugged in that determine the
amount of child support. "It's
like fighting over whether to measure
the distance from Atlanta and Athens
in meters or miles," says Arizona
State University law professor Ira
Ellman, the primary drafter of the
American Law Institute's Principles
of the Law of Family Dissolution.
"If you start from the same economic
assumptions, you'll get the mathematical
equivalent with both percentage of
income and income shares."
(Rinaldo's notes: There is SOME truth
to this. Here in Massachusetts, whenever
the mother makes less than 40k per
year, certainly less than 25K per
year, the guy really gets raked over
the coals. The lack of truth is that
when mom is rich, poor fathers should
still pay the same amount. After all,
in 90% of all cases, the child was
forcibly taken from the father. These
are not dads that just took off or
would not take in the children in
and raise them.)
In studies of the percentage-of-income
model, custodial parents were shown
to support their children with their
incomes in the same proportion that
the non-custodial parents did; their
contribution just wasn't spelled out
in the court award. (RINALDO'S NOTES:
You don't need "studies"
to confirm what you can get by using
a formula, but hey, these guys don't
sound too science savvy. At any rate,
clearly in situations when the mother's
income goes way up, child support
goes way down when both incomes are
considered. It is not a matter of
a "study," its a matter
of pulling out a calculator and seeing
for yourself. One problem: mom moves
in with rich guy, his income is not
used.)
As the scholar who pioneered the percentage
of income approach, Columbia University
professor Irwin Garfinkel understands
why Georgia fathers now perceive the
model as unfair. "There is something
intuitively wrong about only counting
his income and not her income,"
says Garfinkel, "but my argument
was that the mother is contributing
and sharing her income with the kids
and that happens automatically.
(Rinaldo's note: Really? This happens
"automatically." Now this
DOES require a study. Maybe not. Unless
Jr. is getting a brand new motorcycle
ever week, rest be assured that the
$300 per week is going to regular
household expenses that will occur
regardless of the presence of children.)
But what happened was that in some
cases she earns more than he does,
and everyone says that's awful and
that's what killed percentage-of-income."
{Rinaldo's Note: Yes, that is awful.
The concept that mothers who forcibly
took a child from a father in court
should have to pay her share of raising
the child.
Love this logic.}
Another myth that held sway during
the child support debate was that
the support awards impoverished fathers
and enriched mothers. But every credible
study has found the reverse. {Rinaldo's
Notes: Now I am really laughing my
ass off. First, staggering child support
does not impoverish fathers, and hey,
they have "credible studies"
to prove it. You see, when you have
to pay $150, $300, or $450 a week,
it does not lead to "impoverishment."
I'll be honest with you. I don't think
that I have met a father in my life
that paid child support that didn't
have a huge burden placed on their
financial situation--that's ALL of
them, save for true blue multi-millionaires.
Impoverishment is common. But the
"reverse" is true? Women
get "poorer" when child
support goes up?)
In his widely cited research, Garfinkel
found that after child support is
subtracted from the non-custodial
father's income and added to the mother's
and child's income, the standard of
living of the dad is still about twice
that of the mothers and children.
(Rinaldo's Notes: First, as to nearly
everyone I have met, I know very few
people that had an increased standard
of living after a divorce. Remember,
the more you make, the more they take.
I suppose it might be POSSIBLE [certainly
not the usual or even COMMON case]
for the father to have a higher standard
of living, but hey, mom, if your standard
of living is way below his after winning
the house and getting 40% of his AFTER
TAX income, get yourself off your
duff.]
It's critical that the child support
commission disregard the political
fictions, a near-impossible task since
Gov. Sonny Perdue loaded the commission
with political appointees; he even
named Ehrhart as its chairman. [Oh
gees--like these women's groups--groups
who, by the way DO NOT represent the
views of most women--don't have a
stranglehold on the legislature.]
"If a commission is set up by
virtue of an act by someone who's
already decided that the guidelines
are too high or too low, that's a
problem for Georgia," says Ellman.
"It's hard to imagine how they
know that because they don't have
good information yet upon which to
make the judgment." {Rinaldo's
Notes: Ahhhhh, when you have people
really concerned about inequities--what
a problem.}
That's exactly what the commission
has to obtain from credible economists
— good information that's not politically
tainted by father's rights advocates
who believe that child support should
be set at a subsistent or basic level.
{Rinaldo's Notes: First, economist
and psychologist are NOT real scientist
and you can get any two of them to
disagree on just about anything. Second,
what a child cost is as knowable without
a study as the going rate for a gallon
of milk. You just need commonsense,
eminently lacking in this opinion
piece. Do we really need a blue-ribbon
panel to figure out the kids don't
really cost $600 per week to raise?}
"What scares me about the commission
is that the stated political intent
is to serve the needs of the payor
and not the child, and I have never
seen lay members of any commission
outvote political leaders with an
agenda," says state Rep. Mary
Margaret Oliver (D- Decatur), the
General Assembly's most knowledgeable
member on child support and family
law. Because she opposed the changes
to the guidelines as a threat to child
welfare, Oliver was not put on the
commission. {Rinaldo's Notes: Hmmmm.
Mary, since you are so concerned about
children--and we will take your word
for that since we would NEVER DREAM
that you were just trying to get more
buckaroo's for women, why not have
women account for their payments so
that the money is really going for
the children? I know--you already
filed the bill but it just got lost
in committee. Using children as a
political tactic to attack the other
parent has all the class of speech
written by a Nazi propagandist.}
Child support has two basic purposes
— to protect child well-being and
to spread the support burden fairly
between both parents.
{Rinaldo's Notes: Interesting, and
this can be determined without taking
in the mother's income? Or, as in
Massachusetts, ignoring the first
$20K of the mother's income, thus
putting the entire onus of the cost
of the child, and then some, on the
father?}
"Those two goals can conflict,"
cautions Ellman. "You cannot
design a system without a value judgment
and whatever value judgment is being
made should be as transparent and
open as possible."
The child support commission has to
make a value judgment in favor of
children. The politicians have already
made one in favor of adults.
{Rinaldo's Notes: Remember that clarion
call from these women's groups that
actually don't represent the views
of most women.
Father's want rights; mothers want
what is best for the children. In
reality, most father's actually are
concerned with their children, and
most women that champion the current
system—which is probably about 6%
-- 10% of the population given recent
poll results—really want more money.
Its like welfare—just keep saying
its about the children, and hopefully
you will get enough people to say
its not about women trying to live
off of their uterus systems. These
people don't care about children—they
care about almighty dollar. If they
really cared, they would adopt shared
parenting—which is REAL child support.
As Ghandi said, "First they ignore
you, then the laugh at you, then they
argue with you, then you win. We are
in the argument stage.}
This newsletter is put together by
Attorney Rinaldo Del Gallo, spokesman
of the Berkshire Fatherhood Coalition,
who practices in family law. He may
be reached at 413-443-3150 for those
needing legal help or support. The
Berkshire Fatherhood Coalition meets
the first and third Wednesdays at
the Berkshire Medical Center (BMC),
710 North St., Pittsfield, MA.
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